"I'll be sitting in this seat by 2027," Starmer remarked, noting that if our discussion went well, he might welcome us into his official residence for a follow-up chat in 2026.
There is rarely ever time off for prime ministers. Just an hour before our chat started, Starmer had been in calls with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and trying to decipher what on earth had transpired in Venezuela, where his close friend, US President Donald Trump, had recently targeted and seized its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
By the time our interview, which was considerably lengthier than usual, had concluded, Maduro had been formally accused in New York.
With the year commences, Sir Keir seems to have had a degree of a revitalisation. Perhaps even just a bit of downtime with loved ones at Chequers, the prime minister's rural getaway.
This appeared to have resulted in improved morale than at the sluggish conclusion of 2025, a dreadful year politically for him.
But are he and his supporters being unrealistic if they reckon his fortunes are poised to improve?
The grisly reality for the leader is that many of his colleagues believe he's underperforming at his job. Some of them would sooner gamble and oust him sooner rather than later.
However Sir Keir was dismissing such talk when we spoke on Saturday morning.
Multiple times he stated he'd be "assessed at the next election", insisting no one would take his five-year mandate from him – even if the optimal path of stopping Nigel Farage and Reform UK reaching No 10 could be for Labour to change its leader.
"This is the battle of our times and I aim to guide the party," he affirmed.
The issue for the prime minister is that he will be scrutinised far sooner than then – in a mega set of elections in May throughout the UK. He attempted to argue, perhaps too much, that they are about who runs local authorities, and who runs the devolved administrations in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not about Westminster.
Accurate – to some extent. But even though he may not want to admit it, No 10 will be held accountable by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir implying that there were no circumstances under which he would walk away, should a his colleagues ran against him for the job, should those elections prove very poor for Labour.
He sought to account for his low poll ratings by saying the voters was naturally impatient for things to change. He aimed to convince the interviewer, and the public, that this year would be distinct.
The economic situation would improve despite rising unemployment, he claimed, when policies the administration put in place during their first turbulent year began to take effect.
His big argument is that soon the country will "see an improvement".
The prime minister may have communicated with renewed vitality than I've seen from him for a while – more relaxed, perhaps, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering calls from various quarters for a more decisive approach, with increased political vision, more vigour, more speed and more urgency, his points were repeated ones.
Given that he is in considerable political difficulty, should he consider a change of tack?
No government, and certainly not one that has been struggling in the polls for an extended period, gets everything its as planned.
Sir Keir's challenges are not only because government is challenging, but because he and his team have erred, including in the last few weeks.
The prime minister expressed regret that he regretted saying he was "delighted" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an controversy when comments he'd made in the past – such as calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Starmer attributed it to "procedures" for not realising what the activist had said before – a more diplomatic way of saying it wasn't his responsibility.
And he is facing obvious political dangers as the year unfolds. His friendship with the US president acquires a new complication after Trump's military action on Venezuela.
Having interviewed Sir Keir Starmer, a ex- human rights lawyer who opposed the war in Iraq, over many years, the notion he would be at ease with such action seems unlikely.
He told me he was a "longtime champion of international law" but the public "simply do not have the full picture at the moment".
Critics demanded criticise the action before the interview. And the administration is expected to face increased demands to give an explicit view in Parliament in the coming days.
And there has always been bubbling tension in the Labour ranks to undo or remake some of the outcomes of Brexit.
The PM rejects he's heading in that direction, but his new specific commitment to integrate further with the EU's single market – the huge economic European trading zone – will likely trigger accusations that he is breaking his promise never to try to undo the results that followed Brexit.
A decision to align with more of the single market will satisfy a faction on his backbenches, but it is easy fodder for Reform and the Conservatives to
Elena is a tech enthusiast and freelance writer specializing in gadget reviews and digital trends.